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TCC Minutes November 4, 2003

City Council Chambers---------City Hall
Monday, November 4, 2003---------4:00 p.m.

COMMISSIONERS PRESENT David Bailey
J. Michael Cochran, Chairman
Brent Hardwick
Angela Lindstrom (4:04)
Rosa Nowels
John Olmsted
Patrick Robeson, Vice-Chairman
COMMISSIONERS ABSENT
STAFF PRESENT Robert Hodson, Director of Engineering
Mark Miller, City Traffic Engineer
Don Hoppe, Assistant City Engineer
Dave Langstaff, Traffic Engineering Analyst
Teri Carlson, Senior Traffic Engineering Aide
Lieutenant Cave, Police Department
Sergeant Matson, Police Department
Susan McGraw, Recording Secretary

CALL TO ORDER

Chairman Cochran called the meeting to order at 4:00 p.m.

APPROVAL OF MINUTES

Vice Chairman Robeson made a motion to accept the Minutes of October 6, 2003, with the following corrections:

Page 4, paragraph 3, line 1 should read ". . . doesn't think a no parking regulation will help, and will . . ."

Page 8, line 1 should real "Lieutenant Stanko commented. . ."

Commissioner Hardwick seconded the motion, which passed unanimously.

NEW BUSINESS

Traffic Engineer Miller introduced Don Hoppe, Assistant City Engineer, who will be replacing Robert Hodson, Director of Engineering; and Lt. Doug Cave who will replace Lt. Stanko at these meetings.

  1. CONSIDERATION OF A STAFF RECOMMENDATION TO REMOVE THE EXISTING "NO PARKING ANYTIME" PARKING RESTRICTION AND REPLACE SAID RESTRICTION WITH "NO STOPPING ANYTIME" ON THE NORTH SIDE OF VALENCIA DRIVE FROM BROOKHURST ROAD TO WANDA AVENUE; AND ON THE SOUTH SIDE OF VALENCIA DRIVE BETWEEN BROOKHURST ROAD AND LOCUST DRIVE. STAFF ALSO REQUESTS THAT THE TRANSPORTATION & CIRCULATION COMMISSION APPROVE A STAFF RECOMMENDATION TO INSTALL 90 FEET OF RED CURB ON THE NORTH SIDE OF VALENCIA DRIVE FROM WANDA DRIVE EASTERLY AND REMOVE THE MARKED CROSSWALK AT THE INTERSECTION OF LOCUST DRIVE AND VALENCIA DRIVE.

    Mr. Miller presented staff's report. These recommendations are consistent with the Grace Ministries' street striping as required in its development plan.

    Commissioner Olmsted bicycled on Valencia Drive this weekend and wondered if there will be bicycle striping as done on Berkeley. Mr. Miller stated that it has been a consideration, and staff will be reviewing this in the near future

    Commissioner Bailey questioned the proposed no stopping'. Mr. Miller advised this restriction would not allow parents to drop off their children.

    No one was present to speak to this item, so there was no public comment.

    Vice Chairman Robeson made a motion to accept staff's recommendations. Commissioner Hardwick made a second, which was unanimously approved.

  2. CONSIDERATION OF A STAFF RECOMMENDATION TO REMOVE THE EXISTING UNCONTROLLED MARKED CROSSWALK ON COMMONWEALTH AVENUE AT ITS INTERSECTION WITH TURNER AVENUE.

    Mr. Miller presented staff's recommendation. During the planning/striping stage for a proposed car rental business on the south side of Commonwealth, it was discovered that the crosswalk at this location does not meet the established criteria for the installation of a marked crosswalk. Marked crosswalks tend to have a higher rate of accidents than unmarked as the pedestrian tends to have a false sense of security. The vehicle code now addresses notification to the public to remove existing crosswalks. A sign will be posted indicating that the crosswalk will be removed within 30 days.

    Vice Chairman Robeson asked if there were any parking issues for the airport. He was concerned for the airport restaurant and inquired if local businesses were notified. Mr. Langstaff advised that notices went to all businesses with no responses received. Mr. Miller advised there are no identified parking issues at the airport.

    Commissioner Bailey asked about the legality of crossing midblock at this location without a marked crosswalk. Mr. Miller explained that unless posted otherwise, crossing here would not be considered jaywalking.

    Commissioner Olmsted commented that it is a long walk from Magnolia to the restaurant. He inquired who pays to remove the crosswalk. Mr. Miller advised that the City is responsible and this location will be combined with other sandblasting projects.

    Commissioner Lindstrom wanted to know who would be liable if there is no marked crosswalk and is there a difference between liability and responsibility. Mr. Miller could not respond without legal interpretation, but questions would be raised if the crosswalk was warranted.

    Commissioner Nowels asked if there is any idea why the crosswalk is in that location. Mr. Hoppe stated that possibly there was more business on the south side. Most of the present businesses are located to the west of the marked crosswalk except for an aviation business.

    There was no public comment.

    Commissioner Olmsted suggested deferring the motion for a month and notifying restaurant business.

    Chairman Cochran expressed concern that there is an issue of liability if the crosswalk can't be supported by current warrants.

    Commissioner Bailey stated if it is still a legal crosswalk, crossing will be safer. He supported staff's recommendation.

    Commissioner Hardwick made a motion to accept staff's recommendation. Commissioner Bailey seconded the motion which passed with Vice Chairman Robeson and Commissioner Lindstrom opposed.

NON-AGENDA ITEMS

  • Commissioner Hardwick commented that the installation of red-light cameras is a great idea. Director Hodson stated that enforcement issues are still being worked out in the courts. Mr. Miller is waiting for completed reports of a study for five more intersections.
  • There will be no Transportation & Circulation Commission meeting in January.

COUNCIL REVIEW

  • Director Hodson stated that three items from the T&CC were presented to the City Council. Two were approved, and the third (Beechwood Elementary recommendations) was approved in part. The Council approved the placement of a crossing guard at Beechwood Elementary School; however, the No Stopping Anytime was not approved. The school district will be making changes on campus in an effort to improve traffic safety problems.
  • Director Hodson advised that the Neighborhood meeting with Houston Avenue residents did not have the attendance as expected. However, the meeting was productive. This area was determined as the most plausible for testing of speed humps. A petition will be hand carried throughout the area. Sixty-five percent of area residents must sign the petition in favor of the testing, and the items will be placed on the December 2003 agenda. The Police and Fire departments will be active participants in this project.
  • Three commissioners are scheduled for a transportation workshop later this month.
  • Assistant City Engineer Hoppe will take over as staff liaison to the T&CC.
  • Commissioner Olmsted advised that an informal public meeting will be held at 7:00 p.m. on Thursday, November 6 regarding the proposed Fullerton College maintenance yard on Berkeley Avenue.

PUBLIC COMMENTS

Chairman Cochran opened the meeting for public comment.

Sam White, Ray's Flying Club, asked about the process to place an item on the Transportation & Circulation Commission agenda. He was advised to contact Engineering department staff.

ADJOURNMENT

There being no further business, the Transportation & Circulation Commission was adjourned to December 1, 2003.

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