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Energy & Resource Management Committee Minutes May 19 2004

Energy & Resource Management Committee Minutes May 19 2004

May 19 2004

CALL TO ORDER: Chairman McNelly called the meeting to order at 7:30 a.m.
MEMBERS PRESENT: Adamson, Devlin, Hardwick, McCormack, McNelly, Mitchell, Murphy, Pugh, Roberts
MEMBERS ABSENT: OConnor, Twineham
PUBLIC PRESENT: Mark McGee, MG Disposal; Dave Ault, Taromina Industries;
STAFF PRESENT: Director of Maintenance Services Savage, Assistant Planner Sowers, and Clerical Support Thompson
APPROVAL OF MINUTES: Minutes of the April 21, 2004 meeting were CONTINUED to the next regularly scheduled meeting


  1. Used Oil Recycling Program

    Committee Member Pugh made a motion to agendize this item to the next meeting at which time the Committee would be able to discuss this matter further specifically to talk about the program components and possibly look into using a different provider. Vice-Chair Hardwick seconded the motion and passed with unanimous approval.


  1. Beverage Container Recycling Program Update

    Mark McGee with MG Disposal presented a summary of the July December 2003 Beverage Container Recycling Program results per staffs request. He stated that the program is still working well with the local residents and schools utilizing the containers often. Mr. McGee gave a brief description of the program for the benefit of the Committees new members. There was some question as to if the program usage had increased within the last year due to this committees advertising efforts for the program. Mr. McGee stated that the numbers have increased and felt that the schools are promoting the program. Committee Member Adamson asked for some clarity on the statistics for the first four months of this year. Mr. McGee stated that they were not available at this time. Dave Ault with Taromina Industries stated that the market also influences these numbers. Right now recyclables are in high demand and the economy is really good for citizens to recycle privately. Collection rates at the schools during this prosperous time provide evidence that they are doing well promoting this program to get these numbers when the price for the product has increased.

    There was some additional discussion about bins that have been removed from certain schools per the schools request. Mr. Ault then asked what City Hall does for recycling, and suggested staff put together a program to set an example for the community. He noted that it could potentially reduce the cost of waste collection and receive some additional funds. Committee member Adamson asked if there was any reason not to show these numbers to the school board to commend them on their efforts. Mr. Ault suggested that representatives from the committee and Taromina Industries to go together to present the next check. Chairman McNelly said that it would be a good public relation opportunity for both the programs and those involved.

    After some additional discussion Chairman McNelly pointed out that this committee recently created and sponsored the Fullerton Green Pages, which highlighted on the cover the Beverage Container Recycling program.

    Mr. Ault described the AB939 program and stated that the commingled process has helped, however too much green waste is bagged. There are some advantages to manual collection such as there is no limit on what can be put out at the curb. After some additional discussion Committee Member Pugh asked for some clarification on the difference between manual and automated collection. Mr. Ault explained that manual collection is with one physically removing the trash from the curb and placing it in a truck, automated is with the truck doing the work instead. He stated that with traditional automated collection there were two cans allowed. He has seen some successful programs where green waste is manual and automated for recyclables and trash. Mr. Ault explained that self-haul is still a problem with the diversion rates and that there is an effort to work with the County to change their program. Chairman McNelly thanked both Mr. McGee and Mr. Ault for their time and asked if they would be willing to come back at a later time.

  2. Green Pages Update

    Assistant Planner Sowers provided copies of the Green Pages to those members wishing to distribute them. A decision on whether to distribute to local real estate agents was tabled to a later meeting.

  3. Mandated Sewer Requirements

    Bob Savage, the Director of Maintenance Services gave a report on the mandated sewer requirements. Waste Discharge Requirements (WDR) requires the City to significantly improve the maintenance operations and control of the sewer system within the City. WDR has specific deliverable due dates and what is being presented to Council are ordinances for legal authority. At this time Maintenance does not have the legal authority to enter restaurants that are clogging sewer lines and stop them from continual abuse. There is a need to implement a program for Fats, Oils, and Grease (FOG) control. Due to EPA requirements Director Savage will also be asking Council for additional staff and equipment to assist in FOG program. Based on a consultants suggestion Director Savage is proposing to require two permits. One permits businesses with an interceptor or grease trap to operate with routine inspections while complying with Best Management Practices. The other permits businesses that do not have a trap or interceptor to operate conditionally with the responsibility to keep the grease out of the sewer lines.

    After some additional discussion Director Savage stated in order to fund the increase in staff and equipment he is proposing a sewer fee based on water consumption. Proposition 218 excluded the sewer as a requirement for vote from the public as long as the rate is based on a reasonable fee for service. Chairman McNelly stated that from a personal standpoint these programs are long over due for Fullerton, and commended Director Savage for his work with this program. He felt the projected fees are reasonable for our residents. He noted however the only thing missing is an assistance program for fixed income individuals. Chairman McNelly noted that the committee would like to stay informed and recommended the committee back this effort.

    Committee Member McCormack (8:45 a.m.) needed to excuse himself and thanked the Chairman for his comments to the Council at the last Council Meeting.

  4. Commissions and Committee Structure

    Chairman Mc Nelly stated that he would like to call a special meeting to discuss this issue. Committee Member Mitchell proposed meeting in two weeks from this date to discuss this issue and come up with a recommendation. The committee unanimously agreed.






Items to be reviewed at a future meeting will include the following:

  • Commissions and Committee Structure
  • Used Oil Recycling Program


The meeting was adjourned at 8:55 a.m. to a special meeting on June 2, 2004. The next regularly scheduled meeting will be on June 16, 2004 at 7:30 a.m.